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Wow, that was scary. Anyway, the Euclid you are directing from this page is not the one who was born in Megara, but the father of geometry. The one born in Megara is the often-confused Euclid of Megara, philosopher living a century before the more popular Euclid, thus the change. (And, uh, good luck with that problem, bob! :) Kreachure 23:28, 12 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Wrong coordinates

Wrong coordinates make Megara appear in Euboea!...-GuitarDudeness (talk) 22:28, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinate error

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The following coordinate fixes are needed for Megara: These coordinates are obviously wrong. Currently they sit on the North side of Euboea. Megara City Hall is around 37.9963006, 23.3444365

—TChapProctor (talk) 15:16, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I modified the coordinates to match the city hall. I'm not 100% sure this follows guidelines though: I choose a rather precise number, as degrees + minutes of 37° 59′ N, 23° 20′ E placed the location outside of Megara's street grid.

TChapProctor (talk) 15:43, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Megara's strategic location - Top section, and suggestion for "Early History"

Hi! Back in my college days I read a small book that was a professor's long dissertation on Megara. It dealt with the problems faced by Megara during the Peloponnese Wars. Essentially it detailed the difficulties of a "small" (but wealthy) power sitting between two much larger powers (Sparta vs. Athens), with a "medium" power (Corinth) next door. Megara had plenty of wealth, talent and industry, but it could never field more than a few hundred soldiers and a handful of ships. As such it was always a small contributor to any land force being raised, and had to rely upon the navies of different powers on the East or West depending upon from which harbor its ships sailed. I was fascinated by the book's exposé of what Megara went through, its political and diplomatic struggles.

In the end, after trying to seriously 'take sides' and thus 'make a difference', and paying dearly for it, Megara eventually settled into a sort of pacifistic diplomatic stance. They avoided taking sides, agreeing with everyone, and fighting for no one. Their Navy dwindled to only a few ships capable of handling things around their harbors, and on land only enough soldiers to man their walls.

---Let me say that I agree with what this article says.--- I understand deeply what is happening as I read it.

All I am suggesting is a few tweaks to bring some of this fascinating struggle closer to the surface for the reader.

Top Section What I would suggest adding here is something along the lines of:

Megara maintained its independence and was never absorbed by its larger neighbors, but due to its strategic location ― yet relatively small size ― it was unable to avoid getting embroiled in the various political, military and diplomatic events of ancient Greece.

and,

Early History Section My recommendation here is rather simple. I see this as two distinct periods. I also would Note that this section is rather long (because the history of Megara is so interesting!!). The First is from its founding to the end of the wars with the Persians. The Second is once things start 'heating up' in the Peloponnese between Athens and Sparta.

This would break this long section into two parts, where it goes from what might be called 'prehistory' into the Classical Greece period. You will notice that the paragraph that deals with the end of the wars with Persia starts three hundred years earlier!

So, I recommend that under "Early History" there be an immediate sub-title heading, something like: Founding to 5th Century BC And after the Persian Wars, I would put in a sub-title heading, something like: Period of Classical Greece

(Obviously you might prefer dates, etc. since Classical Greece can be construed in different ways, but most scholars think that it was the Persian Wars that pulled the Greek States together and founded the true beginning of that period.)

option,

Have three sub-headings, with a small touch of rewriting for the mid section, to have: 1) Founding, 2) Persian Wars, 3) Classical Period.

Well, that's my two cents (maybe more like 10 cents!).

Again, let me say that I love the article, and have no fault with it. I just feel like Megara needs a little more exposition for the reader to fully grasp all that happened during its rich and storied history!

James 202.44.196.197 (talk) 16:22, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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