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Israel is in Asia

Whoever came up with this list has apparently forgotten that Israel, Lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman, United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Dubai, Qatar, Kuwait, Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Cyprus, Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Iran are ALL IN ASIA!

The term 'Asia,' in fact, originally meant the area now called Mesopotamia.

Otherwise, ALL JEWS ARE ASIAN!!!

73.162.218.153 (talk) 15:42, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Can anyone confirm whether Sinetron actress Cornelia Agatha is Jewish as claimed? (Couldn't find anything in English, and I don't speak Bahasa Indonesia.) Udzu 13:26, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Well, I've heard that her Jewish blood came from her grandma (maternal or paternal?). Unfortunately, you don't read Bahasa Indonesia, because Google could provide some informations about her racial makeups. Try the keyword "Cornelia Agatha Yahudi" on Google for those who are able to read Bahasa Indonesia. W3bu53r

The Dalai Lama? Can someone provide further explanation considering I couldn't find any on the current Dalai Lama's page or the page on Dalai Lamas in general. Was he Jewish during a previous incarnation or will be be incarnated as a Jew in the future? Either way, in my opinion, if those are the reasons, claiming him as a Jew is somewhat dubious. Parthepan 12:40, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

In the List?

Boris Litvinskii, Boris Anatolievich Litvinskii

Brian Rose, economist of SBS Warburg Dillon Read Japan Ltd. in Tokyo ([1] [2] [3])
Genrich Altshuller

--Sheynhertz _געשׁ״ך 04:52, 19 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Georgia on my mind

Isn't Georgia considered to be in Eastern Europe? In least I don't recall it being East of the Urals.--T. Anthony 14:12, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It's too far south to be in Europe. After all, Turkey isn't East of the Urals either.--Runcorn 18:39, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, if I can slip in. Georgia is considered to be part of Europe. In Georgia (country) it is written "Culturally, historically, and politically Georgia is considered part of Europe" Maybe not geographically, but Iceland isn't geographically in Europe either. ----Tellerman

Wikipedia should never be cited as a source elsewhere in Wikipedia. The definition of Europe usually used is "that part of Eurasia to the west of the Ural Mountains, north of the Caucasus Mountains and north of the Sea of Marmara" (The Hutchinson Factfinder, 2nd ed 1994, p.551). The Caucasus form the northern boundary of Georgia.--Runcorn 00:00, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not using it as a source, I'm just saying what is already asserted in wikipedia. It doesn't make much sense to say Georgia is European in one part of wikipedia, but isn't in another. The Caucasus split Georgia almost in half. Why should Georgia, just because a part of it is outside the boundaries of what is sometimes defined as Europe not be included when Iceland, which by many standards, it also outside the boundaries of Europe is included? Personally, I'd maybe place it as "the Caucasus" much in the same way that Arabian lands are placed in their own category (not Asia), but that might not be legitimate. ----Tellerman

Please feel free to amend the Georgia article. Philips' Concise World Atlas specifically marks Iceland as in Europe and Georgia as outside. We go by what reliable sources say.--Runcorn 12:31, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ahmad Dhani

Ahmad Dhani is not Jew!

Korea

Korean Jews are totally unrepresented in this list. this i know there are asian jews, ive seen them. someone put up some koreans.

The problem is coming up with a "noteworthy" Korean Jew. The best I could find was Victoria Namkung who is a freelance writer based in Los Angeles, writing for InStyle, Los Angeles, and Mavin, a magazine celebrating the mixed race experience. Grika Ⓣ 16:20, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you include Americans of mixed Jewish/Korean heritage, then Susan Choi and Liz Cho are probably the most famous. Udzu 17:22, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Steven Seagal's children

It might not matter whether someone "considers" them self Jewish or not if the lineage is to be followed. On the other hand, some would say the line was broken when his fater married a non-Jew. In any case, whatever is decided about Ayako Fujitani should also apply to Kentaro Seagal. Grika Ⓣ 15:58, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Islam Karimov

Islam Karimov has no Jewish blood either. This list needs some SERIOUS work.

Vinokourov

He is not jewish!!! if he is prove it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.84.113.91 (talk) 11:50, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Phillipines

Who the hell is Alyssa Lopez? --Weditor08 (talk) 20:15, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Irving Berlin

Was previously listed under Kyrgyzstan, and removed by me, because he had no connection to Kyrgyzstan at all. The person who added him was probably confused about the location of Tyumen (where Berlin may or may not have been born), which is in Russian Siberia. Whether or not we should include individuals from the Russian portion of Asia would be separate matter.--Pharos (talk) 08:23, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Biblical characters?

If anyone wants this list to be taken seriously, then the biblical characters Daniel, Esther and Mordecai should be removed from Iran/Persia! CAPMO (talk) 15:00, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is this article even necessary?

...since the Middle East technically is in Asia. Some may not think of the Middle East as being in Asia, but it is nevertheless on the Asian continent. ElijahTM (talk) 17:06, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fumiko Kometani

Can someone tell me why is she on this list? She is Japanese and definatelly not Jewish. The fact that she married a Jewish man, does not make her to be Jewish. I think she should be removed from this list.

Norum (talk) 01:31, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Direct citations needed

Folks, please don't add entries to this list without direct citations. Just because the info may (or may not) be in an article about them is not sufficient. As stated in WP:CIRC, "do not use articles from Wikipedia as sources." According to WP:NLIST, "every entry in any such list requires a reliable source attesting to the fact that the named person is a member of the listed group." The Dissident Aggressor 22:21, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently some folks don't understand that per WP:Source list and a few other policies, Wikipedia policies and procedures apply equally to both a list of similar things as well as to any related article to which an individual thing on the list might be linked. In other words, you can't rely on the linked articles to support entries in this list. The Dissident Aggressor 21:47, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If an article's inclusion in a list is not supported with a reliable source somewhere, then it should be removed from the list (and the article should be fixed, too). If it is only supported at the article, copy/pasting the reference from the main article to the list article might be a good idea, but only if the source can be confirmed. To me, this doesn't always seem vitally important for non-contested entries. There are definitely CIRC problems, but on a pragmatic level, I would rather have an entry only sourced at the linked article than to have people not bothering to add non-controversial valid entries, or even worse, start citing sources they haven't actually read.

Additionally, person's status as an Asian is usually (but not always) so non-controversial that there's no major problem letting that be cited at the target article. Basic geography falls under WP:BLUESKY.

Right now the article has been tagged for some form of cleanup since 2007, so that doesn't seem to be effective. One thing that might help is to add an invisible comment to every section saying something like Only add a person who already has an article, and include a reliable sources stating that person is Jewish. That's not good wording, but something similar to that might help improve the article, or at least prevent good-faith original research. Comments like that are used at other list articles, and it seems like they make a positive difference. Grayfell (talk) 07:25, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Somewhere" is not within policy. It is to be directly supported. I'll submit an editrequest to the Editnotice to reflect your suggestion about the "invisible message" The Dissident Aggressor 19:18, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't talking about an WP:EDITNOTICE, I was talking about MOS:COMMENTs. An edit notice is a good idea, but an invisible comment is a lot easier, and I can do that now.

I know "somewhere" is not in policy (or guideline, since CIRC is the only policy that's been brought up here). I didn't do a good job explaining myself, did I? I'm saying that if the sources can be confirmed, they should be copied. If they cannot be confirmed (offline, etc.) then it's not always a big deal and they can be judged on a case-by-case basis, because Wikipedia is not a WP:BUREAUCRACY. As an example, including Abraham Barak Salem (not a BLP) in this list is not controversial.

I agree that everything should be sourced at this article, and that both the NLIST and SOURCELIST guidelines support that. Right now the article has three redundant cleanup templates about the exact same underlying issue: lack of sources. This is specifically advised against by Wikipedia:Template messages/Cleanup and WP:OVERTAG. I don't think invisible comments or edit notices are going to instantly fix the problem, but having multiple cleanup templates isn't working and decreases the quality of the article. Grayfell (talk) 21:58, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Some very good points there Grayfell. I've trimmed the templates and put in an editrequest on the editnotice. I support the comments you propose too. The Dissident Aggressor 16:58, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Azerbaijan Jews

Hello! I would like to amend a little discrepancy in the article. Lev Landau was a Russian-speaking Ashkenazi Jew who lived in Azerbaijan as a child. He was not a member of a Turkic-speaking community. It is not correct to consider him as a person with a Mountain Jews’ origin. These Jewish diasporas are different.--Apr1 (talk) 08:14, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]