Talk:Poznan District

Is this project dead? Halibutt 21:39, Jun 26, 2004 (UTC)

No, why would you think so? It's important to realize that this article is a bridge in the structure (as being formalized in the Historical States WikiProject) of the Prussian hierarchy of the 1800's. The parent article is Posen Province and the child articles are the Kreise. The admin district doesn't have a lot of significance besides the grouping function, so there won't be a lot more adding to this article. Bwood 01:32, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)

About the "Polish Spellings" column of the table: I see that someone has started linking to Polish city articles. I'll not change them until the correct material is more developed. There should not be any links in this column. The only links will be to the Kreise articles. The Kreise article contain links to the Standesamt articles. Links to the articles of the Polish towns will occur in the Standesamt articles. The town articles cover the town throughout history, so there is no need to duplicate them in this series of articles which is part of the Historical States project, and follows the administrative structure of the Prussian state, before 1871. Bwood 01:32, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)

It's not someone, it's me again. As far as I remember we had a conversation about this series some month or two ago and you stated the same as above. However, I noticed that no further additions were made to the Kreise articles ever since and most of them do not contain any data. That's why I think the project is dead or at least abandoned.

As to the links to the cities - they should be there no matter what. I can't imagine an article about Prussia without any link to Koenigsberg or an article about Germany without a link to Berlin. All the Kreise are not some abstract entities but units of administrative division formed around towns and cities. I doubt there should be separate articles on Poznań and Posen, so the best way would be to link to the present-day towns. Especially that the history sections cover all of the towns' history. Also, the "Polish" names that you put in the articles are false and in most cases have nothing to do with the real Polish name. That's why I find it essential to correct them (there's no such city as S~rem, neither in Poland nor anywhere else; the city name is Śrem). Halibutt 13:51, Jun 27, 2004 (UTC)

First, please continue to fix the spellings, no arguement there. Second, there is a proper, organized place for the city/town links, but not in the "Polish spellings of the Kreise names". But, as you say, the material is slow in developing (I only have so much spare time, so I work on this in chunks). Until the Kreise pages are ready, I think it's ok to link to the city pages, as that is better than nothing and may be useful to some. I've brrm spending most of the few hours I can, on the Project definition, so that the organization is defined and a consensus is reached in an official manner, instead of this being my personal project. I'll come back to the Kreise and Standesamt pages as soon as I can. Bwood 16:02, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Where is the correct place for links to the actual towns? Halibutt 07:09, Jul 13, 2004 (UTC)

In the Communities tables of the Standesamt articles if they exist (few do yet). If they don't exist yet, go ahead and put them in the Standesamt tables of the Kreise articles if *they* exist (most do). I'll move the links down the hierarchy as I am able to fill it in. Bwood 04:11, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I oppose merging with the Posen District article, as that article is part of a Project, which is strictly based on the official Prussian heirarchy of provinces, Kreise, StandesAmter, etc. This "Poznan District" article is a Polish-centric article obviously designed to minimize the role of the Prussian jurisdiction and to present the subject in a more geographic, pseudo-political boundaries. In order to avoid constant edit wars, let's leave this article as it is, and not merge. Bwood 04:32, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This article is nearly entirely a content forking of the page Posen District, plus giving a wrong impression that the official language there was Polish at the time: the official language was actually German. I can understand why patriotic modern Poles may not want to recognise the Prussian rule over Posen and Westpreussen provinces; but everybody reocognized it at the time. Transfer what information is not in Posen District, then replace by a redirect. Anthony Appleyard 21:31, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]