Talk:One by One (Foo Fighters album)

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One By One Tour was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 23 March 2011 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into One by One (Foo Fighters album). The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

Untitled

This article states that the white cover edition of the album does not come with the DVD, but I have the album with a white cover, and it certainly came with a DVD, whereas the black cover editions I've seen in stores do not advertise an included DVD.

Chris Shiflett

Removing references to other projects, as it seems out of place, and not pertinent to One By One.

Norwegian special edition

Prior to my edit, the Norwegian special edition was incorrectly listed as the Swedish special edition. On Foo Fighters' official page: (http://www.foofighters.com/discog.php?cat=album&id=162&count=0), it is clear that the bonus tracks on disc two are taken from the concert in Oslo, December 2003. To my knowledge, there has never existed a Swedish special edition of One by One.Bjartewe 18:39, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Grammy Awards

Why does it say that the Foo Fighters won Best Hard Rock Performance and Best Rock Albulm in 2002 and 2003 but when i click the link for Best Hard Rock Performance and Best Rock Album it says they won them in 2003 and 2004?

Immortal

Might be an idea to add a disambig or at least a note about 'One by One' also being a song by Immortal --203.114.179.177 01:45, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

4 songs

What four songs does Grohl refer to in the second paragraph? Notthegoatseguy (talk) 20:14, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dunno but that really needs a reference. Clearly "Times Like These" is one of them since it appear on Skin and Bones. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.25.8.1 (talk) 08:16, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The first four on the album, which is also why they are the only ones played at shows from One By One. They were all also the singles as well. 131.125.115.15 (talk) 20:25, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As above, it's likely the 4 singles. Halo, Lonely as You, Burn Away, Overdrive and Come Back would definitely be 5 of the 7 he dislikes. Times Like These was done for Skin And Bones and All My Life is constantly played live so that's 2 of the 4 he likes. This leaves Have It All, Low, Disenchanted Lullaby and Tired Of You. Disenchanted Lullaby was only played live a handful of times. Tired Of You was played last in 2005. Low was last played in 2009 and Have It All in 2008. The 4 are probably Times Like These, All My Life, Low and Have It All. I will note however that Low and Have It All weren't played at all in 2006 or 2007 (assuming the setlist site actually has setlists for those years) so he might have disliked those two tracks and liked Lullaby and Tired Of You then softened his stance on Low and Have It All and started playing them because they were singles and people would remember them. His quote was from 2005 after all. 114.76.252.83 (talk) 18:42, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Article Title

It should be just officially called "One by One" since that is what it redirects to. The current title can be kind of confusing.

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. Withdrawn by nominator. Jafeluv (talk) 13:53, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

One by One (Foo Fighters album) → One by One — Already redirects here. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 12:47, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Survey

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Oppose One by One (Foo Fighters album) is not a primary topic of One by One. In fact, One by One should not redirect here either, it should be a disambiguation page. --Muhandes (talk) 14:04, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, that's a good point. I really should've checked that first and then requested that One by One (disambiguation) be moved over One by One. Is it possible to withdraw my nomination, or else change it? A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 14:31, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Wikipedian Penguin (talk · contribs) 13:19, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Article has passed and the review has been completed.

~~Starting soon.~~ This is one of the longer articles I'll be reviewing, so it's most likely I'll be copy editing as I go. Feel free to revert. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 13:19, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sources and spotcheck

I know GA criteria does not ask for absolutely perfect references--which and this article definitely does not have--but I think you should add accessdates for all online references. In the case that one of them dies, you will at least know, when the information was retrieved.
Ref 8 does not support that the studio was in Topanga.
- Added one that supports.
Ref 10 does not support quotation.
- Excuse me? The whole section is adapted from the article on Raskulinewicz linked there!
  - It's ref 11 now, the MusicRadar one. I think the quotation about "commit to sitting in his basement for four months" is on page 2 of the article, not page 1. Please specify. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 20:19, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - I put pp. 2-3, it's that enough?
    - Suffices. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 18:51, 30 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"One by One was considered the band's heaviest up to that point, with Grohl describing the sound of it as 'different than anything we've ever done in that it is darker and more aggressive'." – needs inline citation.
- Done.
"Grohl said the album was 'all about the energy of playing live'" – quotation marks should surround "the album was all about the energy of playing live" per source.
- Done.
The article is a bit too heavy on quotations. I suggest heavy copyediting throughout.
- Any suggestions?
  - I see some quotations simply unnecessary and verbatim. A few examples:
    - "Regarding his choice, the producer speculated Grohl 'was having a hard time finding a guy who would commit to sitting in his basement for four months', and eventually picked Raskulinewicz because 'Dave liked my energy and enthusiasm' and 'could tell I was a fan'". Can be written as "The producer speculated that Grohl, having found difficulty in choosing someone 'who would commit to sitting in his basement for four months', eventually picked Raskulinewicz for his energetic and enthusiastic nature."
    - "... declaring that when he considered the rough mixes 'sucked a lot of the life out of the songs' and 'sound[e]d like another band playing our songs'." --> "... declaring that when he considered the rough mixes "sucked a lot of the life out of the songs" and "sound[e]d like another band playing our songs"." – this is a actually a bit confusing. "declaring that"? Do you mean "realizing this"...
    - The last paragraph in the Production section alone 35 words in quotation.
    - "... with Grohl describing the sound of it as "different than anything we've ever done in that it is darker and more aggressive"." can be "...as Grohl described the sound as a darker and more aggressive approach as opposed to the band's usual work." (needs source btw)
    - I think the best thing to do would be for me to get in there and do some paraphrasing myself and I'll list concerns that you may be better at addressing. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 18:51, 30 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - Changed those, are there any more examples? igordebraga ≠ 17:36, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
What makes this a reliable source? Or this?
- Removed the first. The second, has history and standards, and "In+Music+We+Trust" exists in print too.
Looks good.

Comments

What exactly does "working the demos" mean?
"The sessions took four months and were at the cost of over $500,000." – What currency? US dollars? —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 19:57, 30 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done those. Anything else? igordebraga ≠ 17:36, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"The band also showed disappointment with the ten tracks that came out of the sessions, as Hawkins described them as 'million-dollar demos'". - If he was disappointed, why did he describe them as "million-dollar demos"? Isn't that supposed to be a positive remark?
- Well, if they were supposed to be the finished tracks, calling them demos means dissapointment!
"One by One was considered the band's heaviest up to that point" – Up to what point? Describe a specific period of time.
"...and the short period during which the re-recordings were done." needs direct inline citation.
This sentence is probably a bit too long and needs to be trimmed or split: "Grohl would usually write the lyrics after finishing the vocal track for another song,[4] and the singer said that despite the angry content of some lyrics, he drew no inspiration from Courtney Love—with whom he had arguments and lawsuits regarding Nirvana, the band on which Grohl and Love's late husband Kurt Cobain played—to which he was surprised as derogatory references to Love usually "snuck in" in songs such as "I'll Stick Around" and "Stacked Actors"."
The composition needs a reduction on quotations. I'm hoping you can do that in fear that I might incorrectly interpret something. Thank you. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 17:58, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Done those too... though you might comment if there's any quotation you still question. igordebraga ≠ 18:31, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - It's still a bit too dense in quotations. Try and find some easy ones to paraphrase. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 19:06, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - You mean on Reception or elsewhere? igordebraga ≠ 16:00, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      - Sure! I'd love to do some paraphrasing myself, but your pitching in to help is always appreciated. You're the nominator after all. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 16:07, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Cut some reviewer quotes, anything else? igordebraga ≠ 03:51, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"Eric Carr of Pitchfork Media was much critical of the album," – much what? More? Do you mean "very critical" instead?
"... and Shiflett said in One by One 'there are great songs there, and then there are... parts of great songs'." How did he say something in One by One?
Tables in the Charts and certification need to be formatted by WP:ACCESS. That is to say, the class should be "wikitable sortable plainrowheaders" and a "!scope=row" must precede each item in the first column.
Looks good —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 19:05, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Images, stability and neutrality

Images have suitable captions and sources and non-free image has good fair-use rationale. There has not been any major issues with neutrality or edit disputes either. Looks good.

Final

Good article.

Done those last ones. igordebraga ≠ 01:35, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think all aspects of the GA criteria have been covered. I would recommend you clean up the reference formatting and dig for some more information on the chart performance and sales. However, the article's good enough as is for GA. Great work and may there be more. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 11:30, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

More aggressive sound ?

I would like to question the statement: "The songs on the album, which include the successful singles "All My Life" and "Times Like These", have been noted for their introspective lyrics and a heavier and more aggressive sound". The song Times Like These does not have an aggressive sound even for a Foo Fighters song. The same can be said for most of the album.QuintusPetillius (talk) 19:36, 24 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is summing up the "Composition" and "Critical response" sections, and both the bandmembers and critics noted the songs were heavier. Times Like These may not be as rough as All My Life, but just compare that to Everlong, Walking After You or most songs in TINLTL (to keep with the albums the band had at the time). igordebraga ≠ 19:59, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Japan Disk Version?

I recently bought a used version of the album in Japan. It has the same titles as the Original Release version, but with the title Danny Says added as a bonus track. (Number 12, 2:59) Interestingly, the logo is a black instead of white. See https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B01JTDHJPM/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_JRJNV8KEYNZQCDSXFBFJ for a very low quality example. The backside of the booklet features the white version, but with the record information at the bottom instead of the album and interpret. Maybe this is something that should be added to this page? --2405:6582:2BA0:700:451:6F3:B808:8F9B (talk) 03:18, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]