Talk:Lisa Gerrard

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Date	Process	Result
September 24, 2007	Featured article candidate	Not promoted
January 19, 2008	Peer review	Reviewed
January 21, 2008	Featured article candidate	Not promoted

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A friend of mine claims that Lisa Gerrard has an eight-octave range. I haven't found any evidence of this - can anyone provide proof either way? According to one of the links from the article on Mariah Carey, famed for her vocal range, Ms Carey's range is five octaves, so I find the claim about Lisa Gerrard hard to believe. Note that the range of a standard piano is seven and a third octaves. — Paul G 09:04, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

No mention of Glossolalia

Or did I miss it? This whole article about Lisa Gerrard and not one mention of her signature mode of singing in glossolalia ?? C'mon guyz, I am decidedly not a fan of hers and therefore unqualified to change the article, imho. It's like an having an article on Eric Clapton and not mentioning his guitar work !

earrach

I second this, but I don't know what it is called. Glossolalia usually refers to the religious aspect. Is Melisma the correct term? I believe she describes it here herself. - Kevs 04:19, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

zorgul

It should definitely be discussed, one of the most common questions is "what language is she singing in", and shouldn't an article answer that. If sources are a problem I guess there should be enough to go on from interviews, statements on the "toward the within" dvd and the "sanctuary" documentation. Melisma actually refers to pitch modulation within a syllable as a musical technique vs. keeping the pitch on a syllable, and while she also does that it is separate from the language question (you can do melismatic singing in any or no language). The article on the song "Sanvean" states "Like most of her work it is sung in a euphonic and emotional pseudo-language, like that of Adiemus.", and herein "pseudo-languauge" links to the "Glossolalia" article. It's also mentioned in the Dead Can Dance article. If it's in the Sanvean article shouldn't it be in the Lisa Gerrard article?

In general I feel the article lacks an "Artistic style" or "approach" section, I think her style is differentiated and identifiable enough to merit that, as a random comparison from a different art genre, take the article on Andy Goldsworthy, who also has a brief "artistic style" section that helps you understand "what is this artist about". The discussion of 'glossolalia' could go into such a section. Right now there is not much in terms of stylistic information except that she has multi-ethnic influences and a "haunting" voice. Zorgul (talk) 23:16, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gerrard sings many of her songs, such as Now We Are Free, Come Tenderness, Serenity, The Valley of the Moon, Tempest, Pilgrimage of Lost Children and Sanvean in an idioglossia (an idiosyncratic language) that she has developed since the age of twelve http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideoglossia

The article currently links to "Glossolalia" with no explanation. It simply says in the introduction "She is known for her unique singing style technique (glossolalia)." Firstly, glossolalia is not a "singing technique." Secondly, I think the word that should be here is idioglossia. Glossolalia generally refers to the spiritual practice of "speaking in tongues," and the Wikipedia page linked to describes it that way, whereas idioglossia refers to a language invented by the user. Lisa Gerrard describes her style of expression as an "invented language," i.e. a language invented by her, and religious groups who practice "glossolalia" believe it to be a language "unknown to the speaker." That's a pretty key difference! Sadiemonster (talk) 08:31, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hammered dulcimer

Someone added Lisa to the list of hammered dulcimer players. However, this article on her does not mention the hammered dulcimer at all. Can someone confirm that she plays the dulcimer? Thanks. Dsreyn 17:05, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's right, she does play the hammered dulcimer. It can be seen in photos of her live shows ([1]) and the recording of Toward the Within. I'll add a mention in the article about it. Aggelophoros 06:01, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Perry, fellow Australian?

It is said in this article that Brendan Perry is "a fellow Australian". Yet, Perry was born an englishman, had lived for 14 years in England, then moved to New Zealand where he lived for several years. Has he adopted the australian nationality afterwards, or is it a mistake in the article? --Earendel 09:21, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

After reading Brendan Perry's official website, I am convinced that he did not changed nationality, and I therefore edit the page. --Earendel 09:34, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I vaguely recall Dead Can Dance forming in NZ, for that matter, and coming to Melbourne in the early 1980s. I'd have to look this up, of course ... - David Gerard 14:55, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Free image

I'm busy tracking down a decent free-content image as we speak! - David Gerard 14:55, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Free image added, "fair use" presskit and DVD images thus removed (per policy) - David Gerard 15:27, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lisa Gerrard - how to pronounce?

Can somebody please explain, how is the name Lisa Gerrard pronounced correctly?--Imrek 17:18, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Lee" "Sa" "Ger" [As in the start of 'German'] "Ard" [as in the start of 'Ardvaark'] "Lee-sa Ger-ard". --Marc ^Talk 01:22, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Link to "Echoes" interviews

I am restoring the link to the free "Echoes" interview page. This is an important reliable third party resource by one of the leading ambient music radio shows on US public radio, and it provides insights on the subject of this article that are, to my knowledge, not available anywhere else. --Gene_poole 21:41, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

When the host of the show, Jdiliberto, mass adds links, it is WP:SPAM and WP:COI) IrishGuy ^talk 21:42, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm adding them, and I'm not the host. If you can find an alternative series of interviews from an alternative free, reliable third party source, then please add them.--Gene_poole 21:47, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(after ec) Not necessarily. WP:BITE and WP:AGF are also important guidelines, perhaps even more important than either WP:SPAM or WP:COI. Are the links relevant for the articles? If the links were added by any other user, would there be a problem? And besides, five links hardly constitute "mass" adding links. Each of the links was to different content that was pertinent to article. older ≠ wiser 21:51, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you - finally - some common sense comments. --Gene_poole 21:53, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Audio samples.

Does anybody have audio samples to put on here? I tried to do it, and it didn't go through.

Gabriellerosey (talk) 21:13, 20 December 2007 (UTC)Gabriellerosey[reply]

Passion of the Christ score?

Was the Passion of the Christ score by Gerrard ever committed to tape? And if so are here any bootlegs available of this unused score?

Opera Voice

Is she classically trained? Because her voice sounds like that and she has got this wonderful voice control —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.218.183.241 (talk) 10:00, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually she's not, you can check that [2], an actual interview made to her in the 90's.

Even though she's not trained she does have a good vocal control, but it should be stated that she didn't receive any vocal training. --187.146.97.64 (talk) 16:51, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Irish-Australian?

I'm just after reading the article and the thing that struck me is the mention that she is "Irish-Australian". Even though i would be proud to call someone with a voice like this Irish i think there must be a mistake. Just because she is born to Irish parents doesn't make her Irish-Australian. She doesn't really have any links to Ireland apart from her parents. If having Irish parents meant that your nationality included the prefix Irish then surely Oasis should be "Irish-English" (Just joking on that one.) Can anyone explain this to me? I'm not trying to start an edit war or hit a nerve here I'm just curious. Jamie Kelly (talk) 00:33, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ga'hoole should be listed

She's in the credits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.192.33.243 (talk) 02:48, 8 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Credit for singing Song to the Siren

She sang this song with This Mortal Coil. It has neither been credited on this page nor that of This Mortal Coil. --Wouralia 18:14, 15 November 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.225.55 (talk) [reply]

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Constructed language

She created a language for Now We Are Free. Should be mentioned.--76.31.238.174 (talk) 03:47, 1 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox picture dispute.

Resolved

I've decided to create this section, so we can agree on a photo for the infobox, and to prevent an edit war. So far, there have been copyvio images, and cropped images of the same image that's already on the article to begin with.

Copyvios are not allowed on any articles. That is why I've reported Margofilop (talk · contribs). The images the user has uploaded has been viewed and proved to be copyvios, and kept reverting after being warned several times. If you think otherwise, please discuss it on here. Thank you.

Tribal44 (talk) 03:53, 11 July 2012 (UTC)Tribal44[reply]

The disputed image is not confirmed as a copy vio. It is in OTRS pending and has a 'possible' copy vio tag on it. It has been reported as both on commons. The image I put in the info box is far better quality that the original. I cropped it from the image further down. I assume that the BLP would prefer it. If we wish to make BLPs look bad in wp then please feel free to include bad images in all of their articles.--Canoe1967 (talk) 04:06, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I put the "Melbourne" image on the page, since its not a copyvio. But the others that were uplaoded by Margofilop were indeed copyvios from websites. If they got permission from the sites to upload on here and commons, then that's a different story.

The article was fine until this whole crapstorm brewed. Its better to leave things be.

Tribal44 (talk) 17:06, 11 July 2012 (UTC)Tribal44[reply]

Why do you keep reverting without consensus? That is a very low quality image that was cropped from another low quality image. I will agree with the green dress one you had 6 reverts ago after I crop it so it looks better in the info box. I still don't know why you want this BLP to look bad in the lead of her article. You seem to be in a hurry to do so as well. I will crop the other now and seek other opinions on it. The blocked editor thought the article was not 'fine' and you kept bullying them until they were blocked.--Canoe1967 (talk) 17:16, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

These are 4 of the choices. The b/w that had an editor was blocked over has passed OTRS and is legal now.--Canoe1967 (talk) 17:38, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, its all resolved. No more reverting and edit warring. And the image does look better. Tribal44 (talk) 21:44, 12 July 2012 (UTC)Tribal44[reply]

I am glad you agree. I just put it in 40+ other language wikis. I also linked instead of leaving the 4 above to take up space.--Canoe1967 (talk) 01:45, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I may just cross-wiki as well, or get my friend to do it, lol. Tribal44 (talk) 01:54, 13 July 2012 (UTC)Tribal44[reply]

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Support split - Discography section takes up more than one third of the page, and should be split to a new article entitled Lisa Gerrard discography. --Jax 0677 (talk) 15:23, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Date or Year of birth ?

I can't believe, if she is musically famous, that her year that she was born, is not in article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.147.132.132 (talk) 01:34, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox pic

Do you all think its time to upload a new infobox pic? I mean it's not bad. It's just a little outdated and the user that uploaded it turned out to be a sockpuppet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8805:5800:13EB:B89E:19C4:2665:EC1F (talk) 04:08, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Awards and nominations

Lisa_Gerrard#Awards_and_nominations section needs to be reformatted. Add a column in the left and list the name of the award as a column entry instead of making new tables again and again. Please refer to the award sections of other article. Venkat TL (talk) 12:07, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]