Talk:Public concern over the Internet
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- Misuse of the Internet - attempt to recreate Very Irresponsible Material on the Internet (listed above) under another name - Texture 17:00, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- [add The Way the Internet is used or abused to the above] This is silly. Do we need an article on misuse of the telephone saying how people sometimes use the telephone for phone sex and drug dealing, and oh isn't that terrible, fortunately we're not like that? Or what about an article on misuse of the postal service, describing how people send pornography through the mail, and also letter bombs, how dreadful, tsk tsk? Delete this article and any further clones or reincarnations thereof. ---No-One Jones 17:08, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- I know it looks silly. Please read the article on Moral panic. Moral panics are just about this type of silliness.Barbara Shack 17:21, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- My point was not that the concern over pornography on the Internet and suchlike is silly (though most of it is :-), but that having an article that basically says "Some people worry about this stuff, and maybe their worries are justified, but maybe not" doesn't inform or educate the reader about abuses of the Internet. The place to document concern over Internet pornography and Armin Meiwes is in those articles, not in a vague editorial. ---No-One Jones 17:32, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- I know it looks silly. Please read the article on Moral panic. Moral panics are just about this type of silliness.Barbara Shack 17:21, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Merge salvagable content into Internet and
redirectdelete as history has been moved to Public concern over the Internet. Anthony DiPierro 17:17, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC) - Delete. This article is a POV rant. I don't see it as fixable other than moving it into a "misuse of technology" article if one exists. HectorRodriguez 17:55, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Don't give Anthony ideas - that would be just as POV not matter how it is written because the title and context is POV to begin with. - Texture 17:59, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Agree that the title is POV. That's why I recommended moving to Internet and redirecting. Anthony DiPierro 19:09, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- I think all these (even as redirects) need deletion. They are not appropriate since they, even as redirects, are POV titles. Got confused about your intent to move to Internet when you started updating the POV articles. - Texture 19:17, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- I would agree with you, but deleting the redirect would destroy the page history. I've moved the page history to Public concern over the Internet. That seems like an NPOV title. Anthony DiPierro 19:21, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- I think all these (even as redirects) need deletion. They are not appropriate since they, even as redirects, are POV titles. Got confused about your intent to move to Internet when you started updating the POV articles. - Texture 19:17, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Agree that the title is POV. That's why I recommended moving to Internet and redirecting. Anthony DiPierro 19:09, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- What is POV about the current article? Anthony DiPierro 19:09, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- The title is POV. Misuse of the internet imples that the internet has "right" and "wrong" uses. If moved to "Concerns about Internet usage" or something, I'd support keeping it. The only other problem I could find with the reworked article is the use of the hand wavy term "abounds", which is somewhat POV. ShaneKing 03:06, 13 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- How can the word misuse NOT be pov? It implies that there is a particular way that we should be using the net. Delete. Mrdice 18:03, 2004 Feb 13 (UTC)
- Did you even look at it? It's been renamed to Public concern over the Internet. Anthony DiPierro 07:36, 14 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Don't give Anthony ideas - that would be just as POV not matter how it is written because the title and context is POV to begin with. - Texture 17:59, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Delete: inherent POV. Wile E. Heresiarch 18:30, 13 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Move this poll to redirects for deletion, as the page is merely a redirect. Anthony DiPierro 07:36, 14 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- [add The Way the Internet is used or abused to the above] This is silly. Do we need an article on misuse of the telephone saying how people sometimes use the telephone for phone sex and drug dealing, and oh isn't that terrible, fortunately we're not like that? Or what about an article on misuse of the postal service, describing how people send pornography through the mail, and also letter bombs, how dreadful, tsk tsk? Delete this article and any further clones or reincarnations thereof. ---No-One Jones 17:08, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)