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Mycenae and Mushrooms - a reality

There is a mountain of evidence to show that Mycenaean civilisation was greatly enthused by fungi, that can only strengthen the "most probably" assertion of Odysses regarding the naming of Mukenai. I had inserted a similar statement into this page back in 2008, but withdrew it and other material following uncivil behaviours by certain moderators. Now as then, take it or leave it, but slowly and surely the monkeys will be taught. 203.134.131.6 (talk) 18:19, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

POPULATION DENSITY

HOW COULD 30,000 PEOPLE FIT INTO 80 HECTARES? THAT WOULD BE ABOUT 96,000 PER SQUARE MILE. DHAKA (PER WIKIPEDIA) IS THE CITY CURRENTLY MOST DENSE WITH 150 THOUSAND TO THE SQUARE MILE. MANILA IN SECOND PLACE HAS FEWER THAN 100,000 PER SQUARE MILE. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JL28552855 (talk • contribs) 05:36, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

/* Political organization */ query QA for handling of unicode Linear B characters in this section [RESOLVED]

Please can a QA editor have a look at the question of linking the unicode characters?

I have installed the appropriate fonts on my machine, restarted, cache, browser, blah, but still they do not render.

I was wondering if the "lang=gmy" html tag needs a hookup but it is not clear to me how this might work.

As a workround I am thinking to paste in the relevant images as there is absolutely NO pleasure staring at those stupid numbered boxes (in some browsers, not even numbered). So, if the miracles of modern tech cannot render a unicode character code to a known font, at least a picture.

Hopefully this problem will solve itself before that :-) Sanzanipolo (talk) 15:31, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed it did. Further exploration of the unicode resources indicated settings within Firefox Options - Content - Fonts & Colors Some experimentation yielded a HOORAY display of the Linear B I was hoping for. Be careful, remember to note down any browser settings before you change them (smiley).

Fonts & Colors

Fonts for: Other Languages

Serif: Aegean (or equivalent, like ALPHABETUM)

Leave the other buttons in this section unchanged. Possibly relevant:

untick Allow pages to choose their own fonts, instead of my selections above

Default Character Encoding: Unicode (UTF-16)♠

Back out to the View menu and select Character Encoding

Unicode (UTF-8) ♦

AutoDetect -> Universal

♦ this seems to be the boy. Others render the whole page in something like Aegean. To recover, hit shift reload and UTF-8 is back

♠ not sure how relevant this is; an early setting change.

I may add to this once refreshed.

Sanzanipolo (talk) 02:44, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Information about Pausanias

I find this stament dubious:

Mycenae was briefly reoccupied in the Hellenistic period, when it could boast a theatre (located over the Tomb of Clytemnestra). The site was subsequently abandoned, and by the Roman period in Greece its ruins had become a tourist attraction. The ancient travel writer Pausanias, for example, visited the site and briefly described the prominent fortifications and the Lion Gate, still visible in his time, the second century AD. Pausanias also describes being led to the site by shepherds, showing that the surrounding area was never completely abandoned.

The source mentioned, French's book, does not mention Mycenae was a tourist attraction and that Pausanias was led to the site by sheperds. Neither does Pausanias' Description of Greece mention any of this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.32.95.22 (talk) 19:26, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Religion Section

The section on religion seems, put mildly, very much out of step with current thoughts on Mycenaean religion - much of it is cited to later Classical aetiologies of their own beliefs, or else to highly questionable sources like Heinrich Schliemann and Fritz Schachermeyr. It also seems to be a general discussion of Mycenaean religion writ large (much of which uses material from Pylos, Crete etc), rather than specifically of religion at the site of Mycenae.

I propose to cut most of it out in favour of a 'main article' link to Mycenaean Religion, and replace it with a discussion of what we know about the Cult Centre - and, perhaps, hero cult/ancestor worship at the Mycenaean tombs in the Iron Age? UndercoverClassicist (talk) 18:04, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thumbs very up. Botterweg14 (talk) 18:20, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I agree! There are plenty of connections to be made from iron-age cults, with the likes of Sito Potinija (lady of the wheat) shares the "Sito" used in some cult titles for Demeter, or the "cow-eyed" epithet that was discovered in Linear-B. While there are clear connections between some Mycenaean gods/goddesses, there's almost a lack of substance or connections to how these myths developed into the archaic/classical ages. Ekhelawon1300 (talk) 13:06, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]