Talk:Vocational Qualification
Hi Rogper
Thanks for your contributions here. I wanted to change this slightly to make it clearer to English speakers. By 'undergraduate degree' I presume you mean that it is usually a first degree (a Bachelors degree as we would say).
Does the Swedish government set the examinations for these degrees, or does it allow the universities to set the exams and just monitor standards?
Do any countries other than Sweden award these degrees?
Thanks
DJ Clayworth 21:19, 10 Oct 2003 (UTC)
- Hello! Sorry for the late reply.
- Yes, with undergraduate degree I mean a Bachelors degree alike degree. All fields is like the Doctor of medicine; you first study, then, in most cases, you need some kind of house officer alike practice. For engineering, this is only some weeks on the summer holiday (and that is beginning to be removed from the requirements). But doctors, nurses and some other professions don't correspond to a bachelor. I don't know if you have any abbrevetion on theirs degree, but in sweden you have.
- I'm trying to look at other nordic contries how theirs regulation looks like (they do have the same titles). I don't know how German and France have. But I don't think Italy has (because otherwise it would probably get a common concept within EU).
- Yes, the Swedish goverment just monitor the standards, like how many courses in a particular area you need to take, the goal of the education, what abilities the student should have, which university that can exam, etc. Actually, Its up to the universities to make their own exams (or titles within the degree), and, for some of them longer than 3 years, the 'master of science' part of the education. Like an engineerer can focus on mechanical engineering or computer science. For some degrees it is the undergradution that also make your graduation title. A lawyer is in swedish called "Doctor of Juris", an engineer 'Doctor of Science', etc., while in english you only say 'Doctor of Philosophy' for all of them (I think).
- // Rogper 17:02, 20 Oct 2003 (UTC)
- We say PhD for most not all. You can see details in the article. Is this degree of profession any different from passing the bar or the medical boards or being otherwise certified to practice a profession? Rmhermen 22:02, Oct 20, 2003 (UTC)
- No, I think it is similar. It is just a categorization of education that leads to a special profession that you are suppose to work with. I guess that there is some history behind it, and that it inherts from the fact that earlier you worked in your profession and received your degree, instead of taking theoretical studies. I think doctor is the only profession still having to work up to a graduation, like HO and SHO. There is similar degrees in other countries, althought they don't go under that name. I'm self a 'civilengineer', but I think sometimes that Bachelor/Master two-tiers system is better. Maybe even the medical doctor should be educated this way; first you get a nurse, then if you want, continue with doctor studies. // Rogper 13:23, 21 Oct 2003 (UTC)
- We say PhD for most not all. You can see details in the article. Is this degree of profession any different from passing the bar or the medical boards or being otherwise certified to practice a profession? Rmhermen 22:02, Oct 20, 2003 (UTC)
vocational qualification
I'm planning to rename this page to Vocational qualification, as a translation in a english lexicon now exists. Anybody have this rights to do that ? // Rogper 15:26, 22 Oct 2003 (UTC)
- You can do it. Just use the Move this page button. Or swith the skin you are using to one that includes the move this page button first. Rmhermen 15:28, Oct 22, 2003 (UTC)