Talk:Yad Vashem
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Palestinian village?
[edit]I have seen claims circulating on social media that Yad Vashem was supposedly built on top of the remains of a depopulated Palestinian village, but searches on Google reveal nothing. Maybe they are referring to Deir Yassin, but that was located to the south of Yad Vashem, not beneath it. Any truth to this claim or is it simply misinfo? Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 13:04, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
+sculptor of "The Eternal Flame"
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Please, supplement
> Sculpture by Kosso Eloul, 1960, bronze > [1]
to
Welt-der-Form (talk) 18:50, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 05:06, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ The Hall of Remembrance, YadVashem.org; Kosso Eloul, The Israel Museum, Jerusalem; 1960 Ner Tamid (The Eternal Flame), Yad VaShem, KossoEloul.net
Notable visitors?
[edit]Seems like unencyclopedic trivia to me. What other articles about places have visitors sections? Clarityfiend (talk) 06:53, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
- It is unencyclopedic, and should be removed or redone. You could try a really bold edit and remove the entire section, but a lot of people have worked on it, and there are a lot of references, so I'm guessing there would be pushback. For starters, we are an online encyclopedia, not a powerpoint slideshow with bullet-point slides; and this article is not a list article, so all the bullet itsms should be converted to prose. Probably one reason it's a bullet list, is that there is no significant coverage of these visits as a collective topic, and nothing but passing mentions of individual visitors in the news of the day, when this or that head of state is on site. (And MOS:FLAGICON may apply as well). WP:DUEWEIGHT may be another concern, as these names are not the first thing that comes up.
- I checked titles and snippets of the first 100 results at Google books, and no visitors were mentioned. In Google scholar, of the top ten results, #3 had the word 'visitor' in it: Attitudes Of Israeli Visitors Tovvards the Holocaust Remembrance Site of Yad Vashem, but it is a serious, academic article, and not about trivia. This article would be more appropriate as a resource in a section about "#Visitors reactions" (not the trivia honeypot "#Notable visitors") and would be a more worthwhile, more interesting, and more compliant with editing guidelines than the current section.
- A very few visits do have historical importance, such as the 1973 multi-day visit by West German Chancellor willy Brandt ((NY Times (1973)), and I find it beyond ironic that of all the trivia included in that section, perhaps the most important visit of all is not covered anywhere in the article, nor even a lonely bullet item lost among the others in that section, though it was clearly of encyclopedic, even historic significance.
- My preference would be to remove the section, retain a very few names (Sadat, J-P II) and redo the content as prose, and either create a new section mentioning them, and add Brandt and scholarly articles such as the one on Israeli reactions. Mathglot (talk) 21:21, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
- Just wanted to add, that one compromise approach, which would be to create a new article, List of notable visitors to Yad Vashem, and move everything there. This would deal with both the WP:UNDUE WEIGHT issue here, as well as the TRIVIA problem at the same time. I still think there might be a side issue of what the WP:LISTCRITERIA would be at the new article, but I, for one, wouldn't worry too much about what happens at the list article, and could concentrate more on keeping the main article up to standards. Mathglot (talk) 21:28, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
virtual words
[edit]- The name "Yad Vashem" is taken from a verse in the Book of Isaiah (56:5): "[To] them will I give in my house and within my walls a [memorial] and a [name], better than sons and daughters; I will give them an everlasting [name], that shall not be cut off [from memory]."
Customarily, brackets mark words that are implied but not present in the source. If that is so for all of these, one my question how the name Yad Vashem was taken from this verse! –Tamfang (talk) 01:25, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 November 2023
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Change "Yom HaShoah, vommemoration day in Israel" to "Yom HaShoah, commemoration day in Israel." Minor typo should be fixed please and thank you. 21Helios12 (talk) 04:20, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
- Done Fixed. Thank you for taking the time to request this typo be corrected. —Sirdog (talk) 04:33, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 May 2024
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Please make the following change to the article:
− | this reduces the | + | this reduces the independence |
StativStakitKasket (talk) 09:10, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Done. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:53, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
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