User talk:Frjwoolley
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Definition of American
[edit]I am here to inform that I did put the accurate way of defining American in Manual of Style. The term "American" can mean you or it's from North or South America not just the United States. Read the alternative words for American page to get proof. It will tell you that "United States" can be used as an adjective. Heegoop, May 30, 2005 (UTC)
Welcome
[edit]Hello Frjwoolley!
I saw your listing on the New User's page, and since you mentioned being an Anglican deacon and having an interest in Christianity, I thought I'd say hello. I too share an interest in Christianity (see my user page).
That said, if you run across anything you're iffy about, leave me a note on my talk page and I'll come to your defence (if you're right, that is; if not, you may have to be burnt at the stake) I hope you have a good time editing on Wikipedia!
Essjay 06:05, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
"Processed Triune God"? Huh?
[edit]Purely by accident, I ran across your comments on the Talk:Holy Spirit page after I had left you a welcome; I wanted to post my answer here to make sure you would see it. Essjay 07:16, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
You said:
- The article begins "The Holy Spirit, or the Holy Ghost, is the name used in the New Testament referring to the processed Triune God, or the third Person of the Holy Trinity." What does that mean? I don't recall ever seeing God spoken of as "processed", and I can't guess what it might be trying to say. Why not just begin with something like "The Holy Spirit, or Holy Ghost, in Trinitarian Christian belief, is God, the third Person of the Holy Trinity", and go from there to explain 1) what that means, and 2) that "some other religions, and some non-Trinitarian Christians" have other views and beliefs". Frjwoolley 20:51, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
My answer:
The term "processed" refers to the nature of the Holy Spirit. This nature is most famously articulated in the Nicene Creed (RCC version): "We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son."
While the Father is unbegotten (Summa Theologica) and the Son is "begotten, not made" (Nicene Creed), the Holy Spirit "proceeds" from the Father (Nicene Creed) and (for those churches that accept the filioque clause) the Son.
A full explanation of the theology behind this would produce a separate article. In short, the heresy of Monarchianism denied that the Holy Spirit was a separate person of the Trinity, and the heresy of Pneumatomachianism denied the divinity of the Holy Spirit. The Second Ecumenical Council, refuting both heresies, determined that the Spirit “proceeds” from the Father, establishing that the Holy Spirit is both divine of the same essence (ouisa) as the Father. Hence, the Holy Spirit “proceeds” from the Father, and can be referred to as “processed.”
However, while I recognize the source of “processed,” I also recognize that the average reader could easily be confused by the reference. I think it would be better articulated simply as “the third person of the Trinity.” Other thoughts?
Essjay 07:16, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
theology comment
[edit]In the article "Theology", you wrote:
The Gaudiya Vaishnava sect of Hinduism has also started the process of discussing their religious beliefs within the context of the academic discourse on theology. These efforts have been advanced by the work of A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, Tamala Krishna Gosvami and Hindu Studies scholar, Dr. Guy Beck, in their discussions on Krishnaology. Although these efforts have yet to be fully developed, they are indicative of a general trend in world religions towards a plurality of world theologies. I don't understand the last sentence. Could you explain it? Thanks! Frjwoolley 23:27, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for your question.
- (these efforts have yet to be fully developed) This addresses the fact that the theological discource on Krishna is relatively underdeveloped in comparison to other religions such as Judiasm and Christianity. Vaishnava Theologians who participate in Academia are still few, though their numbers are growing - as shown by the new centre at Oxford (the Oxford Centre for Hindu Studies) [1] which has produced a few new Vaishnava theologians in the last few years. (Tamala Krishna Gosvami worked closely with this center.)
- (they are indicative of a general trend in world religions towards a plurality of world theologies) There is a trend in world religions where theologians (from various religions) talk about their Deity using the medium of the academic discourse on theology. In other words, instead of always talking about World Religions, we are more and more capable of talking about World Theologies. The first involves the academic study of religion. The second involves academically trained theologians, representing their various religious traditions in dialogue amongst others. An example of this would be the Graduate Theological Union in Berkley [www.gtu.edu]. It is a center of theological study where Christianity, Buddhism, Judiasm, and Vaishnavism are all represented by theologians from their various religious communities.
Please let me know if I failed to answer your question.
Take care!
High Evif
[edit]Would very much like to know why you felt compelled to step outside your knowledge-field of theology/history and into the field of modern social gestures when you voted to delete the article on the high evif. I only ask because you left no comment except that you'd like to see it deleted.
VfD on Richard Vanderpool
[edit]Recently you voted in the VfD debate on Richard Vanderpool (Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Richard Vanderpool). I recommend you take a second look at this, as the version of the article listed for deletion had been heavily vandalized. Thanks, Carnildo 23:46, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Donatio Constantini
[edit]I answered in my talk page.
Cfd
[edit]Greetings. We previously emailed about doing Latin translation of John Owen. If you have a second, please cast your two shillings in on this: Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2005_September_29#Category:User_la-N. Thanks! --Flex 18:34, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
Anglicanism and the Anglican Communion
[edit]Hello! I noticed that you have been a contributor to articles on Anglicanism and the Anglican Communion. You may be interested in checking out a new WikiProject - WikiProject Anglicanism. Please consider signing up and participating in this collaborative effort to improve and expand Anglican-related articles! Cheers! Fishhead64 22:26, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
Why don't we have a Wikipedia on Talossa language? --Jeneme 13:42, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
An early Orthodox form of the "Glory Be"
[edit]Hi Frjwoolley!
I made a research on the history of the article, and I believe that it was you who, with your revision of 21:33, 27 May 2005, introduced the following paragraph:
This doxology, as well as praising God, has been regarded as a short declaration of faith in the co-equality of the three Persons of the Holy Trinity. Another early form ("Glory be to the Father, with the Son, through the Holy Spirit") was originally used by the Orthodox along with the more familiar wording, but came to be used exclusively by Arians and others who denied the divinity of the Son and Holy Spirit.
The present form of the paragraph (which is at the beginning of the section Other doxologies), is:
Doxologies do not all refer to a co-equal Trinity, and some do not refer to the Trinity at all. An early variation on the Gloria Patri ("Glory be to the Father, with the Son, through the Holy Spirit") was originally used by the Orthodox along with the more familiar wording, but this came to be used exclusively by the Arians and others who denied the divinity of the Son and Holy Spirit
As I could not find the source for the information that you provided in this paragraph, I have appended to it a [citation needed] warning.
N.B. The above reproduces a new section titled An early Orthodox form of the "Glory Be", that I have started at Talk:Doxology
Miguel de Servet (talk) 22:40, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedian micronationalists
[edit]I made a user category, Category:Wikipedian members of micronations, and added you to it, as I know you are king of Talossa. I hope you don't mind. If you know of any other micronationalists, please add them to the page. --Micromaster (talk) 01:46, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
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