Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Diaphane
Diaphane was proposed for deletion. This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was transwiki to Wiktionary. As of 17:33, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC), this article is still in the queue to be moved. Rossami (talk)
Was originally written in French and listed on Articles needing translation. Has been translated into English, and has been listed to transwiki to Wiktionary. But "Diaphane" is not an English word. RickK 18:47, Sep 8, 2004 (UTC)
- The English word is "diaphanous." Not sure what we do here, though. It's scheduled for transwiki, which would then entail a delete anyway. I suppose it's more a case of stopping the transwiki? Delete is a lock, either way, but I don't think we need to redirect to "diaphanous" or anything, and there's no point in putting this in Wiktionary. Geogre 18:53, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Keep until it can be moved to Wiktionary. It does appear to be an English word [1] and with 5,700 english Google hits, may also be appropriate to turn into a disambig. -- Netoholic @ 18:57, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- The dictionary hit you have, Netholic, does not match what's in our article. Our article is an accurate French dictionary entry. What you found was a silk named after the French word. The contents of this page would have to be totally rewritten. If we put "diaphne" in Wiktionary with the meaning of "diaphanous," we're misinforming. Geogre 19:43, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- I realize, but wasn't clear. I think the current wording can be transferred to Wikt as diaphanous. I suppose a diaphne entry could also be suggested there. As for the page here, it seems like it could be expanded during/after the transwiki. Not a delete candidate though. -- Netoholic @ 20:22, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Not necessarily misleading as being very out of date - the term 'diaphane' was sometimes used to mean diaphanous, but back in the 16th century, but spellings were rather variable and English has changed somewhat since then, and it probably hasn't been used in that sense in English for a few centuries. My impression (not yet verified, so don't quote this) is that the silk appears to be a 19th century brand name, which later become generic and used to give the connotations of luxury for everything from face powder to modern Swatch watches. Anyway, the current article is a dicdef, and the data can be transferred to Wiktionary. Average Earthman 10:47, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- The dictionary hit you have, Netholic, does not match what's in our article. Our article is an accurate French dictionary entry. What you found was a silk named after the French word. The contents of this page would have to be totally rewritten. If we put "diaphne" in Wiktionary with the meaning of "diaphanous," we're misinforming. Geogre 19:43, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Transwiki this orphaned dictionary definition. If anyone wants to recreate the article, this time about the silk, they can do so easily (and a red link will encourage that more than a blue).
I have to admit some skepticism about the definition, though. "Diaper work"? Even though Netoholic found this in a reputable dictionary, I can't help wondering if this is one of the spurious words thrown in by some dictionaries to catch copyright violators.Rossami 21:21, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)- At home and with Webster's Ninth Collegiate Dictionary, I've learned of a second definition for "diaper" - a rich silk fabric - so I guess the "diaper work" makes sense. Webster's Ninth doesn't list "diaphane" - which proves nothing. Rossami
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