Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Framingham Mall

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The result of the debate was No consensus, so keep. Death phoenix 15:15, 27 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Framingham Mall

Another non-notable mall with non-notable tenants in a non-notable location. Denni ☯ 02:23, 2005 May 19 (UTC)

Delete as boring and superfluous. I mean... non-notable and vanity. No one will ever search an encyclopedia for this. Sarg 06:43, 19 May 2005 (UTC) Merge with other possible ones in an article about Malls in Framingham or similar, as per User:Kappa. Sarg 12:30, 22 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, not notable. Megan1967 06:44, 19 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, triple NN. R adiant _* 08:25, May 19, 2005 (UTC)
Keep, good stub, important to its local area. Kappa 13:11, 19 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Notable large public object. Klonimus 14:23, 19 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Its a popular mall in Massachusetts . No harm in keping it . --IncMan 15:05, May 19, 2005 (UTC)
Keep --JuntungWu 15:47, 19 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all info can be put in the entry for the city of Framingham. Harvestdancer 16:14, 19 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Worth noting that the location is notable enough for an article, as are many of the tenants. Should probably be cleaned up, though.
Delete or Merge Mcfly85 17:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. It's nice that this is important to its local area, but this is an encyclopedia, not a Framingham business directory. Strictly regional interest and not encyclopedic. Quale 17:59, 19 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, good mall stub. -- Decumanus 18:35, 2005 May 19 (UTC)
Delete: If you need to know about it, you're already there. Only things that have fame/importance outside of their immediate area are encyclopedic. This is not the Yellow Pages, nor the town website. Geogre 01:32, 20 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: not notable. NoAccount 02:33, 20 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete -- the Natick Mall next town over is one of the larger malls in Massachusetts, and while I don't know if it's notable enough for Wikipedia it's certainly more notable than what's essentially a glorified strip mall. Haikupoet 03:03, 20 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Please create a Natick Mall page then. Klonimus 22:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Comment is this any better then other mall articles? Is there a standard to compare a mall with to see if it is noteable? Vegaswikian 06:06, 20 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Can't be an encyclopedia without it. Fg2 07:10, May 20, 2005 (UTC)
- Which encyclopedias currently have an entry for this mall? Vegaswikian 07:14, 20 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  - Wikipedia Klonimus 22:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    - QED, it is not encyclopedic. That says Delete Vegaswikian 05:17, 21 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or merge with some history of the various malls in the area, above the "notability" bar. Local landmark. --SPUI (talk) 11:07, 21 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
keep please this is important enough Yuckfoo 02:58, 22 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Question -- I'm really not understanding all the keep votes here. Huge malls like the Mall of America or West Edmonton are certainly notable by their size, as are places like Quincy Market in Boston or Providence Place because they provide a shopping hub for their respective cities. But I don't see what's particularly encyclopedic about a minor minimall, especially one in close proximity to a major regional mall. To take another example in Massachusetts, the Wrentham Premium Outlets might be notable for being a fairly huge outlet mall that serves a sizeable portion of southeastern Massachusetts and Rhode Island. But that does not make the Cape Cod Outlet Mall noteable -- it's a much smaller outlet mall about an hour away near the Cape Cod Canal, and fairly well frequented, but it's nothing in comparison. Should both of those malls have their own articles despite the huge difference in size and importance? Haikupoet 06:03, 22 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Some editors believe that everything should be kept. There are others who believe that many small articles should be deleted. You will get some of both in many of these votes. Vegaswikian 07:25, 22 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  - Noone believes that "everything" should be kept. Kappa 11:05, 22 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Also we have a problem with the concept of "have its own article" being a reason for deletion, instead of merging into "Malls in Framingham" for example. Kappa 08:30, 22 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  - That seems to make sense. I think a merge with similar articles would be a good idea. Sarg 12:30, 22 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    - Malls have owners. There are a handful of companies that own the majority of the larger malls. I think that at present, only 1 of the top 5 mall management companies has an article. Building the company article would allow malls to be listed there with some facts. Search would find the malls and if you really found the need, there could be redirects. Vegaswikian 18:06, 22 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
      - I think malls change owners more frequently than they change location. Kappa 18:08, 22 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
        A valid point. That would make the issue one of how hard would it be to move the entries to a new owner and leave the question of the need to maintain an ownership history for malls without their own article. Vegaswikian 18:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, nn. Jayjg ^(talk) 21:31, 25 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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