Talk:Bender
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Moving actual contents of the article to Bender (disambiguation) and moving here Bender, Moldova
[edit]As per talk page of Talk:Bender, Moldova, interested users, please leave a comment.--Moldopodotalk 21:04, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- I think this is a bad idea. To quote Wikipedia:Disambiguation: "When readers enter a given term in the Wikipedia search box and pushes "Go", what article would they most likely be expecting to view as a result?" I am not convinced that Bender, Moldova is the answer to that question. As such I support leaving this page as a disambiguation page. Stardust8212 21:32, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- well, how do you know the answer to your question? it all depends on a particular person. I would look for Bender, as a city in Moldova.--Moldopodotalk 22:04, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- you have to consider Futurama is quite popular in English-language word. Of course, a town is much more encyclopedical than a cartoon character, but this has little importance in the Wikipedia policy Stardust8212 has pointed to.Xasha (talk) 22:11, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- I would look for Bender as the Futurama character, and I think it is very possible that people could also be expecting to find information on any of the other places, things or slang terms (I think it's unlikely but possible that they would be searching for any of the people on the list by only their last name). Unless it becomes clear that there is a primary topic for the word Bender, which as I said, I doubt there is, the disambiguation page should be located here per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Stardust8212 00:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Just a quick question, so how do we decide what is the primary topic? Should we listen to each other to see what each user asserts personally? May be there is a source to look at, or a method of some kind to determine this? --Moldopodotalk 08:22, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- The best method is to discuss it here on the talk page and see if we come to a consensus. A good way to judge this is also to do basic searches. What do we get if we search for "Bender" on Google? There doesn't appear to be a single topic that overwhelms the search (Bender (Futurama) is first, then some other things which aren't even on this list) sometimes there isn't a primary topic For example Mercury doesn't have a primary topic because there are three major items someone could be searching for so there is a disambiguation page. In my opinion this is a similar situation. Stardust8212 11:30, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- You are right as far as Google search is concerned. Then, I guess, we can very well leave the article on the city as it is, provided the Wikipedia format for such city names is respected (may be rename it Bender (city) or something like this). I was also wondering whether there is any program that counts the number of hits per Wikipedia article?--Moldopodotalk 13:14, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- That sounds like a question for Talk:Bender, Moldova, not here and I have no opinion on it myself. I think there are tools that tell you page hits for each article, it seems like I was linked to one recently and then I must not have saved the link. Stardust8212 13:37, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- Found it! Fortunately I remembered where I had seen the link. Article traffic for May 2008: Bender, Moldova, Bender (Futurama) and Bender. Stardust8212 13:51, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- You are right as far as Google search is concerned. Then, I guess, we can very well leave the article on the city as it is, provided the Wikipedia format for such city names is respected (may be rename it Bender (city) or something like this). I was also wondering whether there is any program that counts the number of hits per Wikipedia article?--Moldopodotalk 13:14, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- The best method is to discuss it here on the talk page and see if we come to a consensus. A good way to judge this is also to do basic searches. What do we get if we search for "Bender" on Google? There doesn't appear to be a single topic that overwhelms the search (Bender (Futurama) is first, then some other things which aren't even on this list) sometimes there isn't a primary topic For example Mercury doesn't have a primary topic because there are three major items someone could be searching for so there is a disambiguation page. In my opinion this is a similar situation. Stardust8212 11:30, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Just a quick question, so how do we decide what is the primary topic? Should we listen to each other to see what each user asserts personally? May be there is a source to look at, or a method of some kind to determine this? --Moldopodotalk 08:22, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- well, how do you know the answer to your question? it all depends on a particular person. I would look for Bender, as a city in Moldova.--Moldopodotalk 22:04, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Wouldn't it be worthwhile to at least bold both Futurama's Bender and Moldova's, since those would be the most common targets? Also, Futurama's Bender shouldn't have his full name listed at first, since only a rabid fan would know it. Better would be, "Bender, a character on Futurama (full name Bender Bending Rodríguez)." Calbaer (talk) 18:07, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Sixpence
[edit]I'm a 56 year old Brit and I've never, ever heard of bender used to mean 'sixpence'. The slang word for sixpence was 'tanner'. I'm going to add a citation request. --Ef80 (talk) 21:42, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
- Editor Horatio has added a supporting reference, but this was published in 1823. In view of this I'm going to change 'former' to 'archaic'. It's not as if this slang usage dates from the 1950s. --Ef80 (talk) 19:01, 15 May 2012 (UTC)