Talk:Shannon Hoon

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Fixed Link

I fixed the link to the album Soup as it took you to a different page before.

Is there anyone with information regarding whether or not Shannon Hoon was related to Axl Rose? There are many "Rock Trivia of the 90's" sites out there that claim they were brothers; I do not believe that to be true, but I do not want to post anything without facts. Thanks.

No they were not related. They were both from Indiana (possibly the same town). They became friends because they were both indiana boys living in LA (or something) and Axl asked him to sing on "Don't Cry".

Shannon's sister was friends with Axl (school), and was introduced through her....much later on of course.

Death

It says on this site that Shannon died of a heroin overdose, which is what I have heard before, but the Blind Melon website says it was a cocaine overdose. Can anyone verify this? I looked around but most sites just say it what a drug overdose without specifying which drug. UPDATE:

Shannon died of a cocaine overdose NOT a heroin overdose. It was in the back of the band's tour bus. He had his clothes neatly folded at the foot of his bed.

Is it odd to have an article about a person ad the only picture of them is a gravestone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gcostanzo (talk • contribs) 02:22, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've always wondered what actually happened; the most you get is the "it was a cocaine overdose" thing. He was found in the morning, dead, right? On the tour bus? Someone must have been with him or had contact with him prior to the anonymous roadie finding him dead. If someone has a heart-attack from cocaine, it'd be pretty sudden -- was he on the tour bus alone, snorting cocaine? I guess I'm just asking if anyone knows what actually happened, because I can't believe that its THIS ambiguous. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.91.75.159 (talk) 13:22, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I lived in New Orleans at the time of his death. It was reported that the overdose was a 'speedball'....combination of heroin and cocaine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FEA8:D5C0:4C00:28E0:9C2D:2CE9:FEE3 (talk) 20:19, 18 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup

Placed cleanup tag. This article needs to be wikified, edited and better structured as an encyclopedic biography. It also seems to be mostly a re-written version of a (copyrighted?) media biography: see this version from the page history Revision as of 04:16, Jun 13, 2005 --mtz206 18:31, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)

I did some cleanup. Still need to arrange it into sections. I'm also not sure about the paragraph about the supposed final day of his life, particularly the "LA Smoothie" and "1-900" references. Unless someone can come up with a source for that, I'm removing it.

Mtz, do you have a link to the media biography you referenced? I just did some rewording of this article, but if I can see the bio this seems to be based off of I will do a more thorough rewrite to take it farther away from the source material. Isotope23 28 June 2005 13:27 (UTC)

No, I don't have a hyperlink. But if you look at the revision as of 04:16, Jun 13, 2005, it has the glaringly problematic heading of "A Biography of Shannon Hoon; From Staff Reports Lafayette Journal and Courier October 1995", and subsequent edits seem based on this presumably copywritten biography, with only a few words changed (which, IMO, isn't enough to prevent claims of plagarism). --mtz206 June 28, 2005 14:28 (UTC)

OK, I'll check that out and see if I can find the source. I plan on doing a complete rewrite over the next day or so. -Isotope23 28 June 2005 15:49 (UTC)

I rewrote the article. I still need to do some formatting and add some links before removing the clean-up tag. - Isotope23 28 June 2005 17:55 (UTC)

I edited/removed some of the reversions by 208.59.115.41. Most of these were remove statements of opinion, or to give it a more encyclopedic style rather than the style of a Rolling Stone article. Two things in particular I removed because there is no corroboration:

"peaking at #28" - on which chart? It wasn't the billboard album chart. Perhaps the College charts or something along those lines, but if you want to have that in there find out which chart it hit #28 on. "tried to kick out the back windows of the squad car, and ripped a phone from the wall at the police station." - Can you cite a source for this (and I don't mean some fansite). If you can link to a reputable source like a police report on smokinggun.com, I'll leave this in. Isotope23 5 July 2005 17:01 (UTC)

IMO, this article looks pretty good now with the latest changes by McPhail and Lithium. Are we good to remove the Cleanup tag? Isotope23 17:19, 15 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm removing the cleanup tag. If anyone disagrees, go ahead and put it back in.Isotope23 17:08, 25 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

PICTURE Could someone add a picture of Shannon? Thanks.

The section "Personal Life and Death" doesn't actually mention him dying or his death... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.23.70.64 (talk) 04:04, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the reference that some fool had put up about them touring with Led Zeppelin in the early '90s. Zeppelin broke up in 1980 and haven't toured since then.

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BetacommandBot 21:48, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed it. --Hst20 16:29, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Plagiarization, Copyright issues and wikification

Following some attempt at wikification and references, I noticed that the first listed "external reference" (which appears to be a blog or fansite) is the page I believe someone referred to as having been copied and presented here. While the page has some good stuff, there's gotta be tons more out there. Lets please be creative and for the time being, sure, leave the structure there, but try bit by bit to replace most of the plagiarized text with a mixture of reviews, biography, new material, and the usual acceptable sources to make this a good page. --leahtwosaints (talk) 17:29, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Amazing that the plagiarized external link in question vanished almost instantly after my post above (within hours)! At least some people read the talk pages :-) Now, how's about some photo of Shannon? Does someone know how to place an empty silhouette like that on Bernard Fowler's page? That might do the trick to find an acceptable picture. --leahtwosaints (talk) 14:37, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Location of Death

In the description of his death it says he was found before a sound check to play at Tipitina's in the tour bus, but in the next sentence it says he died near Bourbon St. Tipitina's (and where the tour buses usually park) is nowhere near Tipitina's. I didn't want to change it just based on that, but geographically, that seems quite unlikely. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.159.217.202 (talk) 00:42, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Citation needed

"In October 1993, while opening for Lenny Kravitz, Hoon came onstage in Orlando, Florida and San Diego, California openly smoking marijuana at an outdoor concert.^{[citation needed]} In 1994, Blind Melon appeared at Woodstock '94. Hoon went onstage wearing a dress, while tripping on acid.^{[citation needed]} Throughout the performance, Hoon baited the audience and ended the set by tossing a set of conga drums into the crowd.^{[citation needed]} Also in 1994, Hoon went on a drug-induced rampage at the Billboard Music Awards when he attacked a security guard.^{[citation needed]}" This was all removed because it lack citations and appears to be negative in nature. Get citations for this before moving it back. 99.70.51.208 (talk) 20:15, 19 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Can anyone put a picture of Shannon here?

I don't understand why there isn't a picture of him here. Is it due to copyright violations? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.171.8.173 (talk) 21:20, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Made some edits to this page

I had noticed there was a big "citation needed" box at the top of this page so I took the liberty of digging up some sources I could find about certain claims. There was one sentence at the end of the "Early Life" section I removed because in all the sources I could find I didn't even see even a whisper of a band called "Mank Range", let alone weather Shannon was a part of it. Maybe I could have just left a "citation needed" there and moved on, but I'm kinda new to editing. Mostly just doing this in my spare time for fun. There was a website I found called BlindMelonArticles that was super helpful. Seems to be a fan site dedicated to preserving every scrap of photos, videos, soundbites, interviews, and articles about the band. Linked that at the bottom of the page as well. They seem to have stopped updating it in 2018-ish but still super useful. Also took the liberty of removing the Alert Bubble at the top of the pageUnnamedTransGirl (talk) 00:08, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fan sites are not reliable sources... Drmies (talk) 14:55, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes but I'm not citing claims made by the site itself. They have compiled several 3rd party articles and interviews over the course of the bands history and all of sources I've used were not written by the fan site. UnnamedTransGirl (talk) 15:02, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - After I left my comment I went to look, and those links to the site, we cannot have those: the site reproduces copyright material. Sorry. Drmies (talk) 16:00, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]