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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
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As I said when adding the vfd notice, one may disagree about the existence of *other* pages, but to create a page just to make some injokey point is an obnoxious abuse of Wikipedia IMAO. Aris Katsaris 18:28, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)

  • A bit puzzled, never heard of a Stan Union or Organization in the making, but well, unless this organization gives some evidence of the contrary, delete  ;-) — Pgreenfinch 18:47, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
    • But Pgreenfinch, you don't think it's important that this union of -stans is almost national and therefore should be compared to the nations?
    • Of course, except that I didn't find the main article describing this Stan Union, and that there is already a Stan Laurels article — User:Pgreenfinch|Pgreenfinch]] 07:59, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)
    • You know, all the -stans were part of the Ottoman Empire, so they have political and cultural union.
      • Nonsense. None are in the area shown as "The Ottoman Empire at the height of its power" in Ottoman Empire. 5 of the 7 were in USSR, which could have united them with a single nod from Stalin if any of them were seen as having more in common than Islam, aridity, and some linguistic links; my impression is that at least some of them oppress their minorities who match their neighboring -stans' ethnic identity, and that some of those ethnic groups are killing each other, at least inside Afghanistan. Is this edit by User:Geogre a wink-free attempt at satire? --Jerzy(t) 21:30, 2004 Sep 2 (UTC)
  • Delete. This is absurd. Maybe a medal count by continent or something like that would be interesting, but to count the medals of several coutries just because their names are somewhat similar is pointless. — Kevloral 19:56, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete, completely nonsensical, although that is usually a redeeming feature in my opinion. But in this case, no-one will ever bother to find out how many medals were won by -Stan countries. Therefore it has no place in an encyclopedia. Saint will 20:52, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
    • I for one would like to know. Care to try a different argument? Wile E. Heresiarch 15:16, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  • I so appreciate the bitterness and sarcasm of the joke. However, as someone probably on the same side as its author on this issue I vote here, as I did on the articles that occasioned it, delete. Geogre 23:07, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
    • I appreciated also, only good things get imitated, happens to every serious brand. And obviously the attempts at debasing and suppressing the now imitated articles opened a pandora box for trollers. ;-)) — Pgreenfinch 07:59, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. The "stan" countries are an identifiable geographical grouping. Expand the article to name the events and medalists involved (there aren't very many). Wile E. Heresiarch 15:14, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)
    • You might have a point here, maybe it is a "macro region", if we refer to the United Nations statistical definitions, but I don't see at the moment any article describing that grouping and/or its organization. Any evidence would help. — Pgreenfinch 15:36, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)
      • "Stan countries" has some currency as an informal term -- Googling for stan "central asia" returns many hits. This loose usage has been adopted by National Geographic -- their Feb 2002 story on Central Asia [1] opens They are a diverse lot, these seven Stans. That NG refers to Central Asian countries generically as "Stans" shows the term has made it into the mainstream. Fwiw, Wile E. Heresiarch 16:03, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)
        • That is not "adoption", it is a cute touch livening the lead of one article. --Jerzy(t) 21:30, 2004 Sep 2 (UTC)
      • Why not an article about it? I switch to neutral during the wait. — Pgreenfinch 17:31, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)
        • Oh, there is an article about it. It's called -stan, just moved to this spelling by me. I also attempted to clean the ethnocentric POV (see Talk page) about the suffix -stan being comically "over-used" (!), though I feel that was a bit of a waste of time, as the article is still pretty weird. I vote delete on the present listing. Bishonen 22:35, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. There is no reason why this page should be deleted. — 18:40, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC) 
that "keep"], by an editor with a [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Contributions&hideminor=0&target=33451&limit=100&offset=0

recent history] of over 90% non-article edits, may reflect awell-founded sense of not being trusted here under their user-ID. --Jerzy(t) 21:30, 2004 Sep 2 (UTC)

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