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Contemporary attestation
[edit]Until recently there was a statement on contemporary attestation/usage of this term with several reliable sources. Given that the remaining material is four or more decades old, I feel that the contemporary material should be restored (or arguments should be provided for why contemporary attestation of the lexeme is not relevant). Doremo (talk) 10:07, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Doremo: I agree that the material can be restored, but not in a section called "Origin of the term", but rather in a separate section about "Contemporary attestation/usage" or whatever deems apt. And Bolton should be mentioned too, who obviously is the more prototypical example. It might be also useful to add who else has been called 'chickenhawk' in the past years; the currently (i.e. in the stable version) cited individual soon will sink into insignificance and oblivion. As for Tdarn17's comment "Personal beliefs are not factual information": nobody says so. Attestation of usage however is factual information (these texts clearly exist, no?), and since it occurs in widely circulated media, also relevant factual information. –Austronesier (talk) 17:15, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you; these are good suggestions. Doremo (talk) 17:17, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- The editor that deleted the material has not replied here or elsewhere, or raised any other objections, so I have followed Austronesier's suggestions above. I did a search for the term at newspapers.com covering the last five years and was not able to identify any additional consistent examples of contemporary usage. There was one isolated reference to Ted Cruz, and the names of some more obscure individuals (Andy Barr, Jim Bognet) also appeared in isolated instances in the newspapers. Doremo (talk) 05:27, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
How is Trump a Chickenhawk?
[edit]If he is one, then so is Obama.
None of the articles provide evidence that his policy or actions as president were those of a chickenhawk.
Why isn't such a standard used to also categorize Obama or Bush?
That is unfair to say the least. 69.120.128.146 (talk) 06:31, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- "or Bush"? Which one? The Bush family includes several politicians. Dimadick (talk) 09:40, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Since both Presidents Bush have honorable discharges, it would be pretty illogical to reform to them as chickenhawk. Obama wasn't of service age during the draft. One could argue he avoided service simply by not volunteering, but he didn't have to actively avoid it the way Trump had to. Niteshift36 (talk) 17:59, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
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